Trump downplaying Covid-19 is historic national tragedy: Nancy Pelosi
4 years, 3 months ago

Trump downplaying Covid-19 is historic national tragedy: Nancy Pelosi

Hindustan Times  

US President Donald Trump’s downplaying the Covid-19 pandemic in the United States is a historic national tragedy, said the Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi, here on Wednesday. In journalist Bob Woodward’s book, Trump revealed that he “played it down” with regard to the severity of Covid-19 to the American people as he “didn’t want to create panic”. “The President’s own words spell out the devastating truth: Trump was fully aware of the catastrophic nature of the coronavirus but hid the facts and refused to take the threat seriously, leaving our entire country exposed and unprepared,” Pelosi said in a statement. She said further, “We must have a science-based strategic plan to defeat the coronavirus, as advanced in the Heroes Act that Senate Republicans continue to block.” In journalist Bob Woodward’s book, Trump revealed that he “played it down” with regard to the severity of Covid-19 to the American people as he “didn’t want to create panic”.

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Trump’s botched COVID response has been largely forgotten, but it's crucial we remember
2 months, 1 week ago

Trump’s botched COVID response has been largely forgotten, but it's crucial we remember

Salon  

At a campaign event in Allentown, Pennsylvania on Wednesday, former President Donald Trump asked the crowd a question Ronald Reagan also asked voters in the 1980 election against Jimmy Carter, and one many presidents before have asked. “People are still framing questions like that as if where we were four years ago was not in the early stages of a …

Trump claims COVID-19 started when 'dust flew in from China'
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Trump claims COVID-19 started when 'dust flew in from China'

Raw Story  

Former President Donald Trump blamed COVID-19 on "dust" that "flew in from China." "In terms of overall, I think I did an amazing job with COVID," the former president insisted. "I never got great credit on the fighting of the China virus, which is COVID, but we call it the China virus because we like to be accurate," he continued. …

Mistrust, fights and blood sport: How COVID-19 trauma is shaping the 2024 election
8 months ago

Mistrust, fights and blood sport: How COVID-19 trauma is shaping the 2024 election

LA Times  

ICU nurses Fernando Fernadez, from left, Amanda Hamilton and Luz Escabar work on a COVID-19 patient in the ICU unit at Martin Luther King Jr. Community Hospital in May 2020. The pool of people distrusting the government has gotten larger,” said Kristin Urquiza, who co-founded Marked By COVID, which is calling for an accounting of the government’s pandemic response and …

China dismisses FBI statement on COVID-19 lab leak theory
1 year, 10 months ago

China dismisses FBI statement on COVID-19 lab leak theory

Firstpost  

Beijing: For the second day in a row, China on Wednesday dismissed U.S. suggestions that the COVID-19 pandemic may have been triggered by a virus that leaked from a Chinese laboratory. Responding to comments by FBI Director Christopher Wray, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning said the involvement of the U.S. intelligence community was evidence enough of the “politicization of origin …

China's Xi Jinping has a plot to infect the world, spread new Covid-19 variant, warns Mike Pompeo
2 years ago

China's Xi Jinping has a plot to infect the world, spread new Covid-19 variant, warns Mike Pompeo

Firstpost  

Washington: Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has warned that Chinese President Xi Jinping has a plot to infect the world and spread a new Covid-19 variant. The former Trump official told radio host John Catsimatidis that Covid could rapidly spread across the globe because more Chinese residents are now free to travel after the Xi administration dropped its strict …

China’s Xi says country’s COVID prevention enters new phase
2 years ago

China’s Xi says country’s COVID prevention enters new phase

Al Jazeera  

The president says Beijing overcame unprecedented challenges in the battle against COVID amid a new significant wave of cases in the country. Chinese President Xi Jinping has called for more effort and unity as the country enters a “new phase” in its approach to combating the pandemic. “At present, the epidemic prevention and control is entering a new phase,” he …

AP News Digest 7 a.m.
2 years ago

AP News Digest 7 a.m.

The Independent  

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In our 'profound interest' that China reins in latest surge in coronavirus infections: Antony Blinken
2 years ago

In our 'profound interest' that China reins in latest surge in coronavirus infections: Antony Blinken

The Hindu  

It is in America's "profound interest" that China reins in the recent surge in coronavirus infections, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said, asserting that there are major implications if the world's second-largest economy remained shut down due to the virus. When asked about the latest surge in COVID-19 cases in China, Mr. Blinken said the U.S. wants to …

Covid-19 outbreak AGAIN sparks meme fest on Twitter; netizens question 'New Year 2023 plans'
2 years ago

Covid-19 outbreak AGAIN sparks meme fest on Twitter; netizens question 'New Year 2023 plans'

India TV News  

The COVID-19 virus shook the world in 2019 after it was first reported in China's Wuhan. While the holiday season is in full swing and people are planning travel and vacation plans, the unexpected outbreak in China has completely derailed their plans. A few people also voiced their concern and urged the government to immediately ban all exchange with China. …

Covid a result of China 'lab leak’, hints US Senate report
2 years, 2 months ago

Covid a result of China 'lab leak’, hints US Senate report

Hindustan Times  

Republicans in the US Senate on Thursday presented a report on how Covid-19 virus could have started from a laboratory leak, although underscoring that the findings still lack indisputable evidence. The report is seen as an attempt by the Republican party to pressurise the Biden administration and congressional Democrats to take the Covid virus lab leak theory more seriously, reported …

Biden: ‘The pandemic is over’
2 years, 3 months ago

Biden: ‘The pandemic is over’

CNN  

CNN — President Joe Biden said he believes the Covid-19 pandemic is “over” in an appearance on CBS’ “60 Minutes,” but acknowledged the US still has a “problem” with the virus that has killed more than 1 million Americans. Biden on 2024 The President told “60 Minutes” in the interview aired Sunday he had not made a “firm decision” on …

A tale of two systems fighting pandemic
2 years, 11 months ago

A tale of two systems fighting pandemic

China Daily  

Editor's note: In these uncertain times, cooperation and good governance are key to overcoming emerging and complicated global challenges, including the COVID-19 pandemic and climate change. Three experts analyze the stark difference in the ways China and the United States, the world's two largest economies, have fulfilled their global responsibilities in this regard: The world has been living with COVID-19 …

China slams US ‘scapegoating’ before COVID origin report release
3 years, 4 months ago

China slams US ‘scapegoating’ before COVID origin report release

Al Jazeera  

China decries the US ‘politicisation’ of efforts to trace the origin of the virus ahead of the release of a US intelligence report. China has criticised the “politicisation” by the United States of efforts to trace the origin of the coronavirus, demanding a US military laboratory be investigated, shortly before the release of a US intelligence community report on the …

Trump was personally terrified of Covid and thought Boris Johnson was going to die, new book claims
3 years, 6 months ago

Trump was personally terrified of Covid and thought Boris Johnson was going to die, new book claims

The Independent  

Sign up for the daily Inside Washington email for exclusive US coverage and analysis sent to your inbox Get our free Inside Washington email Get our free Inside Washington email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Read our privacy policy Former President Donald Trump believed that Prime Minister Boris Johnson …

Column: Biden’s new inquiry into COVID-19’s origins strikes a blow for open-mindedness
3 years, 7 months ago

Column: Biden’s new inquiry into COVID-19’s origins strikes a blow for open-mindedness

LA Times  

Chinese President Xi Jinping talks with patients and medical workers at a hospital in Wuhan, the first place hit hard by the novel coronavirus of unknown origins. It wasn’t so much what he did — ordering U.S. intelligence agencies to take a new look at the origins of COVID-19, including whether the coronavirus that causes the disease escaped accidentally from …

US, Britain seek new WHO look into COVID origins in China
3 years, 7 months ago

US, Britain seek new WHO look into COVID origins in China

Associated Press  

GENEVA — The United States and Britain are stepping up calls for the World Health Organization to take a deeper look into the possible origins of COVID-19, including a new visit to China where the first human infections were detected. The joint team said the most likely scenario was that the coronavirus jumped into people from bats via an intermediary …

China says politics behind US call for virus origin probe
3 years, 7 months ago

China says politics behind US call for virus origin probe

Associated Press  

BEIJING — China on Thursday accused the Biden administration of playing politics and shirking its responsibility in calling for a renewed investigation into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic that was first detected in China in late 2019. Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian said at a daily briefing that President Joe Biden’s order showed the U.S. “does not care about …

The Covid-19 origin story has massive political consequences
3 years, 7 months ago

The Covid-19 origin story has massive political consequences

CNN  

CNN — A growing storm over the origins in China of Covid-19 has explosive political implications for the United States at home and abroad, as well as the dueling legacies of two presidents that will be defined by the pandemic. Facing his own political pressure, Biden laid out two theories seen as “likely” by US intelligence on the origin of …

Jimmy Kimmel Hits Trump With Stark Reminder Of His COVID-19 Denialism From A Year Ago
3 years, 9 months ago

Jimmy Kimmel Hits Trump With Stark Reminder Of His COVID-19 Denialism From A Year Ago

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING Jimmy Kimmel turned back the clock on Thursday to see what Republicans were saying about the COVID-19 pandemic this time last year. In a montage titled “This Week In COVID History,” Fox News personality Sean Hannity boasts about “inching closer and closer to beating this virus.” Then-Vice President Mike Pence claims, “There is light at the end …

COVID-19: Ten key moments in the pandemic
3 years, 9 months ago

COVID-19: Ten key moments in the pandemic

Al Jazeera  

COVID-19 has killed more than 2.6 million people worldwide since the first case of coronavirus was detected in China in December 2019. COVID-19 – the disease caused by the virus – has killed more than 2.6 million people worldwide since the first case of coronavirus was detected in China in December 2019. In recent months, vaccination drives have been launched …

China eradicated COVID-19 within months. Why won't America learn from them?
3 years, 10 months ago

China eradicated COVID-19 within months. Why won't America learn from them?

Salon  

"There is ample reason to believe that China really has done much better at containing the spread of the virus than other major economies." "I think China has done certainly a better job than the United States in terms of reigning in the virus," Huang told Salon. "If you actually look to East Asian countries, we can see now that …

White House cites 'deep concerns' about WHO Covid-19 report, demands early data from China
3 years, 10 months ago

White House cites 'deep concerns' about WHO Covid-19 report, demands early data from China

India Today  

The White House on Saturday called on China to make available data from the earliest days of the Covid-19 outbreak, saying it has “deep concerns” about the way the findings of the World Health Organization’s Covid-19 report were communicated. White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said in a statement that it is imperative that the report be independent and …

‘Shameful': US virus deaths top 400K as Trump leaves office
3 years, 11 months ago

‘Shameful': US virus deaths top 400K as Trump leaves office

Associated Press  

As President Donald Trump entered the final year of his term last January, the U.S. recorded its first confirmed case of COVID-19. “This is just one step on an ominous path of fatalities,” said Dr. Irwin Redlener, director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness at Columbia University and one of many public health experts who contend the Trump administration’s …

Trump says US Covid cases, deaths exaggerated
4 years ago

Trump says US Covid cases, deaths exaggerated

Live Mint  

US President Donald Trump on Sunday said that the record-breaking numbers of new COVID-19 cases, nearly 300,000 in the past 24 hours, are exaggerated due to the Centers for Disease Control method of counting. "The number of cases and deaths of the China Virus is far exaggerated in the United States because of @CDCgov 's ridiculous method of determination compared …

A pandemic atlas: How COVID-19 took over the world in 2020
4 years ago

A pandemic atlas: How COVID-19 took over the world in 2020

The Independent  

For free real time breaking news alerts sent straight to your inbox sign up to our breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails Please enter a valid email address Please enter a valid email address SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Go deeper: Early success, growing …

The moment the reality of the COVID-19 pandemic sank in
4 years ago

The moment the reality of the COVID-19 pandemic sank in

LA Times  

In the last week of February, when I was still hugging friends and sharing appetizers with them over dinner, I received an unwelcome call from my editor. I expected a reassuring message that what was happening in China — pop-up hospital wards and healthcare workers suffering from physical and mental exhaustion — would not occur in the United States. She …

Rachel Maddow Urges Americans To Do 1 Thing About Trump As COVID-19 Surges
4 years, 1 month ago

Rachel Maddow Urges Americans To Do 1 Thing About Trump As COVID-19 Surges

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING “Ignore the president,” Rachel Maddow implored Americans on her MSNBC show. “Ignore whatever is going on with that circus,” she urged during a segment Thursday analyzing how the coronavirus is again surging across the United States while outgoing President Donald Trump continues his futile attempts to steal the 2020 election. “What the coronavirus task force in the …

Trump trade advisor makes wild claim China sent ‘thousands of people around the world’ to spread Covid
4 years, 1 month ago

Trump trade advisor makes wild claim China sent ‘thousands of people around the world’ to spread Covid

The Independent  

The latest headlines from our reporters across the US sent straight to your inbox each weekday Your briefing on the latest headlines from across the US Your briefing on the latest headlines from across the US SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Read our privacy policy White House trade adviser …

How Trump made Covid-19 an ally, and almost won the Presidency
4 years, 2 months ago

How Trump made Covid-19 an ally, and almost won the Presidency

India Today  

In interviews to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward in the first quarter of this year, Donald Trump confided that he knew how dangerous Covid-19 was, but was downplaying the havoc the virus could cause so that people didn’t “panic”. A “democrat hoax”, amplified by Trump’s sidekicks at Fox News—the channel that Trump’s half of America watches, at the exclusion of …

COVID-19 Isn't Just A Trump Failure. It's a Right-Wing Failure Too.
4 years, 2 months ago

COVID-19 Isn't Just A Trump Failure. It's a Right-Wing Failure Too.

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING Voters are getting exactly the picture they should on the eve of Election Day: President Donald Trump in denial of an ongoing pandemic and actively participating in its spread. A Trumpy Approach To The Virus It is not surprising that a president who seeks economic advice from Lawrence Kudlow, whose record includes predicting Bill Clinton’s tax hikes …

COVID-19, Unemployment: Factors Riding Against Trump’s Re-Election
4 years, 2 months ago

COVID-19, Unemployment: Factors Riding Against Trump’s Re-Election

The Quint  

Trump, who recently contracted and then recovered from COVID himself, has been roundly criticised for his handling of the pandemic, not just by his opponents but also voters, a majority of whom say that he handled the crisis poorly, according to AFP. Biden has cited Trump’s mishandling of the coronavirus as the primary reason for him not being worthy of …

‘Enough Of The Lies’: Joe Biden Is Done With Donald Trump’s COVID-19 BS In New Ad
4 years, 2 months ago

‘Enough Of The Lies’: Joe Biden Is Done With Donald Trump’s COVID-19 BS In New Ad

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING President Donald Trump’s monthslong lies about the coronavirus pandemic are the focus of a new ad from Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s campaign. The 51-second clip begins with footage of Trump in January claiming COVID-19 will simply “disappear.” Subsequent footage shows Trump repeatedly downplaying the threat of the virus, while acknowledging its danger in private. The United States …

Trump has ended Covid pandemic, White House science office claims, as cases hit record numbers
4 years, 2 months ago

Trump has ended Covid pandemic, White House science office claims, as cases hit record numbers

The Independent  

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Erin Burnett Dismantles One Of Donald Trump’s Most Repeated Lies About COVID-19
4 years, 2 months ago

Erin Burnett Dismantles One Of Donald Trump’s Most Repeated Lies About COVID-19

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING Erin Burnett on Friday debunked one of President Donald Trump’s most repeated and dangerous lies about the coronavirus pandemic — that the United States is “rounding the turn” on the public health crisis. Trump has publicly claimed “for months and months and months” that the outbreak is almost over, noted the host of CNN’s “Outfront.” But Burnett …

US President Donald Trump Says Getting Covid-19 Was a 'Blessing From God'
4 years, 3 months ago

US President Donald Trump Says Getting Covid-19 Was a 'Blessing From God'

News 18  

President Donald Trump, still confined to the White House where he is being treated for COVID-called it a “blessing from God” that he got coronavirus, a disease that has killed over 211,000 Americans this year. “I think this was a blessing from God that I caught it,” the president said of COVID-19 in a video message outside the White House …

Donald Trump fears coronavirus: Urgency US president showed in seeking treatment puts paid to lies about pandemic
4 years, 3 months ago

Donald Trump fears coronavirus: Urgency US president showed in seeking treatment puts paid to lies about pandemic

Firstpost  

The facts of Trump’s experience with coronavirus, including how how quickly it sickened him to the point of requiring intensive medical care, are the best tools to fight the misinformation campaign against COVID-19 Something momentous happened late last week, a brief pinprick of clarity piercing through the haze: President Donald Trump finally showed Americans the truth about the coronavirus. But …

Donald Trump says COVID is like the FLU and 'are we going to close our country down for the flu?'
4 years, 3 months ago

Donald Trump says COVID is like the FLU and 'are we going to close our country down for the flu?'

Daily Mail  

President Donald Trump compared COVID to the flu on Tuesday telling Americans to 'live with it' - as he faces a storm of criticism for underplaying the very virus for which he was treated in Walter Reed hospital. President Donald Trump appeared to confuse the flu and COVID after his dramatic return to the White House on Monday night But …

Joe Biden slams Donald Trump for downplaying COVID-19 soon after returning to White House from hospital
4 years, 3 months ago

Joe Biden slams Donald Trump for downplaying COVID-19 soon after returning to White House from hospital

Firstpost  

The US president told Americans ’to get out there’ and not fear COVID-19 as he returned from the Walter Reed National Medical Centre for COVID-19 treatment Miami: Democratic White House hopeful Joe Biden on Monday castigated Donald Trump for saying Americans should not be afraid of COVID-19 or let it “dominate your life,” even after the president tested positive for …

Trump’s Covid-19 recklessness is costing the US dearly (opinion)
4 years, 3 months ago

Trump’s Covid-19 recklessness is costing the US dearly (opinion)

CNN  

Editor’s Note: Jeffrey D. Sachs is a professor and director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University. Trump claims that Americans shouldn’t worry about Covid-19 because of “some really great drugs & knowledge,” disregarding the rather pedestrian fact that Americans do not have access to the same drug regimen that Trump received, nor to the helicopter that ferried …

John Oliver slams White House for ‘terribly’ mishandling Trump’s COVID diagnosis
4 years, 3 months ago

John Oliver slams White House for ‘terribly’ mishandling Trump’s COVID diagnosis

LA Times  

John Oliver had quite a week to recap Sunday on “Last Week Tonight.” During the latest episode of his weekend late-night program, the Emmy winner responded to what he called “shocking and utterly inevitable” news that President Trump, First Lady Melania Trump and several other White House figures had tested positive for COVID-19. “Obviously, the president having the coronavirus is …

Fox News' Greg Gutfeld: Trump Got The Coronavirus For America
4 years, 3 months ago

Fox News' Greg Gutfeld: Trump Got The Coronavirus For America

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING In one of the more mystifying reactions to President Donald Trump’s COVID-19 diagnosis, Fox News host Greg Gutfeld suggested Friday that the president didn’t protect himself from the disease because “he didn’t want America to hide from the virus.” Gutfeld’s comments came as the White House announced Trump was being transported to Walter Reed National Military Medical …

October surprise: Trump in quarantine
4 years, 3 months ago

October surprise: Trump in quarantine

Live Mint  

It has been called a great leveller before, and so it’s turning out to be, in a perverse way, now that the world’s most powerful person has contracted coronavirus. On Friday, news broke that US President Donald Trump and his wife Melania had tested covid positive and would be in quarantine. Beyond the irony of the president’s mockery of his …

Donald Trump, Melania test positive: 'COVID will go away without a vaccine'; from denying severity to hailing US response, what president said
4 years, 3 months ago

Donald Trump, Melania test positive: 'COVID will go away without a vaccine'; from denying severity to hailing US response, what president said

Firstpost  

Trump has been found to be the world’s biggest driver of COVID-19 misinformation during the pandemic, a Cornell University study concluded US President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump tested positive for coronavirus and have gone into quarantine, hours after one of his closes aides Hope Hicks was found to have COVID-19. Maybe I should have done that instead …

Timeline: How Trump Has Downplayed The Coronavirus Pandemic
4 years, 3 months ago

Timeline: How Trump Has Downplayed The Coronavirus Pandemic

NPR  

Timeline: How Trump Has Downplayed The Coronavirus Pandemic Enlarge this image toggle caption Carolyn Kaster/AP Carolyn Kaster/AP President Trump, who announced overnight that he and first lady Melania Trump have tested positive for the coronavirus, has repeatedly downplayed the severity of the coronavirus pandemic and often contradicted public health experts and members of his own administration in their more grave …

'I fear the worst' if world's approach to climate change is same as Covid-19: UN chief
4 years, 3 months ago

'I fear the worst' if world's approach to climate change is same as Covid-19: UN chief

India Today  

The United States, China and Russia fought on Thursday during a United Nations Security Council meeting on the coronavirus pandemic after UN chief Antonio Guterres had warned the body that if the climate crisis was approached with the "same disunity and disarray" of Covid-19, then: "I fear the worst". Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and the Chinese government's top diplomat, …

Blaming China won't solve America's problems
4 years, 3 months ago

Blaming China won't solve America's problems

China Daily  

Rising animosity China has been a punching bag for political forces in the US for decades, and China-bashing has taken on new intensity in the recent decade since China overtook Japan as the second biggest economy in the world. President Trump cashed in on China-bashing during his first presidential campaign, and now downplaying the Trump administration's bungled response to the …

Blaming China won't solve America's problems
4 years, 3 months ago

Blaming China won't solve America's problems

China Daily  

A Report on US Response to COVID-19 and its Blame Game CONTENTS A Botched Response Missed warnings Missteps and lost opportunities Ignoring the science Reduced preparedness Politics v.s. public health A Senseless Blame Game A timeline of Chinese transparency and response Rising animosity A Way Out and Forward Appendix Blaming China Won't Solve America's Problems As of Monday, July 20, …

Blaming China won't solve America's problems
4 years, 3 months ago

Blaming China won't solve America's problems

China Daily  

A Report on US Response to COVID-19 and its Blame Game CONTENTS A Botched Response Missed warnings Missteps and lost opportunities Ignoring the science Reduced preparedness Politics v.s. public health A Senseless Blame Game A timeline of Chinese transparency and response Rising animosity A Way Out and Forward Appendix Blaming China Won't Solve America's Problems As of Monday, July 20, …

White House defends hitting 200k coronavirus deaths: ‘We were expecting 2 million’
4 years, 3 months ago

White House defends hitting 200k coronavirus deaths: ‘We were expecting 2 million’

The Independent  

Sign up for the daily Inside Washington email for exclusive US coverage and analysis sent to your inbox Get our free Inside Washington email Get our free Inside Washington email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Read our privacy policy The White House defended Donald Trump as the number of …

CNN’s Jim Acosta slams Kayleigh McEnany for telling a ‘flat out lie’ to America about COVID-19
4 years, 3 months ago

CNN’s Jim Acosta slams Kayleigh McEnany for telling a ‘flat out lie’ to America about COVID-19

Raw Story  

During a segment on CNN this Tuesday, White House correspondent Jim Acosta recounted his challenging of Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany over President Trump's recent comments where he claimed coronavirus affects "virtually nobody," especially young people. After playing a clip of the exchange, CNN's Brianna Keilar asked Acosta for his thoughts. According to Acosta, McEnany's deflections are nothing new, saying that …

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