Experts not convinced Government will save cash by limiting winter fuel payments
2 months, 3 weeks ago

Experts not convinced Government will save cash by limiting winter fuel payments

The Independent  

Get the free Morning Headlines email for news from our reporters across the world Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. The number of pensioners in receipt of winter fuel allowance is set to fall from some 10.8 million to 1.5 million people, which could save the Government £1.5 billion. The committee also said it was disappointed no impact assessment of the plans had been made by the Government, and suggested it was not convinced by Sir Keir Starmer’s assurances that pension credit take-up would prevent a number of pensioners from falling into poverty. It added: “Given the scale of pensioners who will be affected by this change, and the speed at which it is being introduced, we are not similarly reassured that this will be the case and are of the firm view that a more detailed assessment is urgently required, in particular, on the potential poverty impact.” The SSAC suggested further safeguards were also needed for pensioners in receipt of other benefits, including child tax credits and disability living allowance. “There continues to be effort under way in the Department to ensure that people are applying for that and receiving back-dated payments where eligible.” Shadow work and pensions secretary Mel Stride said: “The Government’s own advisory body has stated that winter fuel payment legislation is not fit for purpose.

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Voters will thank Labour for scrapping winter fuel payments, Wes Streeting claims
3 days, 19 hours ago

Voters will thank Labour for scrapping winter fuel payments, Wes Streeting claims

The Independent  

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My elderly mother can’t afford heating – she needs the winter fuel allowance
4 days, 1 hour ago

My elderly mother can’t afford heating – she needs the winter fuel allowance

The Independent  

After a damp and drizzly start to the year, the weather in the UK has taken a dramatic turn and we’ve firmly entered the first real cold snap of 2025 – which not only prompts concern for our own health and safety but also the wellbeing of our more vulnerable loved ones. Living alone in a privately rented flat and …

Wes Streeting says pensioners should ‘layer up’ and put the heating on as millions struggle without winter fuel payment
5 days, 17 hours ago

Wes Streeting says pensioners should ‘layer up’ and put the heating on as millions struggle without winter fuel payment

The Independent  

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Winter fuel payment: Pensioners waiting over 100 days as Labour changes DWP rules
2 weeks, 4 days ago

Winter fuel payment: Pensioners waiting over 100 days as Labour changes DWP rules

The Independent  

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Pensioners warned over winter fuel payment as key deadline hours away
2 weeks, 5 days ago

Pensioners warned over winter fuel payment as key deadline hours away

The Independent  

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Widows 'worst hit' as 50,000 denied winter fuel lifeline - as Labour is slammed as 'Scrooge' by furious campaigners
2 weeks, 5 days ago

Widows 'worst hit' as 50,000 denied winter fuel lifeline - as Labour is slammed as 'Scrooge' by furious campaigners

Daily Mail  

Labour was branded 'Scrooge' last night after it emerged more than 50,000 pensioners who tried to hang on to their winter fuel payments have been snubbed. Tonight is the deadline to apply for pension credit, and to be eligible for the top-up that Chancellor Rachel Reeves stripped from millions in one of her first acts after taking office. And in …

Wes Streeting claims pensioners will be 'better off' this winter - despite fears 4,000 could die after Labour cut fuel allowance
3 weeks ago

Wes Streeting claims pensioners will be 'better off' this winter - despite fears 4,000 could die after Labour cut fuel allowance

Daily Mail  

Wes Streeting yesterday claimed pensioners will be ‘better off’ this winter despite fears 4,000 could die after Labour cut their fuel allowance. Asked if the Department of Health and Social Care had done an impact assessment into potential deaths, Mr Streeting said: ‘Because of the choices that the Chancellor has made, particularly on protecting the state pension through the triple …

Winter fuel payment deadline warning – what pensioners need to know
3 weeks ago

Winter fuel payment deadline warning – what pensioners need to know

The Independent  

Get the free Morning Headlines email for news from our reporters across the world Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Pensioners have already started receiving winter fuel payments for the year, with those successfully …

DAN HODGES: 'Pensioners will die freezing and alone', a minister confided to me about the winter fuel axe. And more Labour MPs tell me they fear worse is to come
1 month ago

DAN HODGES: 'Pensioners will die freezing and alone', a minister confided to me about the winter fuel axe. And more Labour MPs tell me they fear worse is to come

Daily Mail  

It will begin with an unanswered knock on the door. But among the Cabinet, Labour MPs and party activists, there is a growing belief the decision to unexpectedly axe pensioners’ £300 winter fuel allowance has become a ticking timebomb under Sir Keir Starmer’s fledgling premiership. I have yet to find a single person within Labour’s ranks who genuinely believes in …

UK govt winter fuel decision challenged
1 month ago

UK govt winter fuel decision challenged

China Daily  

A snow plough clears the snow during Storm Bert, along George Street in Edinburgh, Scotland, Britain, November 23, 2024. Married senior citizens Peter and Florence Fanning launched a legal challenge against the Scottish and United Kingdom governments on Wednesday, over their decision to stop helping most retired people with their winter fuel bills. The Fannings' legal challenge, which is being …

UK govt winter fuel decision challenged
1 month ago

UK govt winter fuel decision challenged

China Daily  

A snow plough clears the snow during Storm Bert, along George Street in Edinburgh, Scotland, Britain, November 23, 2024. Married senior citizens Peter and Florence Fanning launched a legal challenge against the Scottish and United Kingdom governments on Wednesday, over their decision to stop helping most retired people with their winter fuel bills. The Fannings' legal challenge, which is being …

Labour minister Liz Kendall is urged to refund taxpayer money used to heat her second home - after axing £300 winter fuel payment to pensioners
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1 month, 1 week ago

Labour minister Liz Kendall is urged to refund taxpayer money used to heat her second home - after axing £300 winter fuel payment to pensioners

Daily Mail  

The Cabinet Minister responsible for slashing Winter Fuel Payments for millions of pensioners last night faced calls to return money she claimed for her own energy bills from the taxpayer. This is an emergency situation - and this news makes me even more angry.’ Labour MP Liz Kendall is being urged to return taxpayers' money used to heat her second …

Winter fuel payment claims skyrocket after Labour changes – with half rejected
1 month, 1 week ago

Winter fuel payment claims skyrocket after Labour changes – with half rejected

The Independent  

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Winter fuel payments begin to arrive in bank accounts – what pensioners need to know
1 month, 1 week ago

Winter fuel payments begin to arrive in bank accounts – what pensioners need to know

The Independent  

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Unite union launches legal action against government over winter fuel payment cuts
1 month, 1 week ago

Unite union launches legal action against government over winter fuel payment cuts

The Independent  

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Rachel Reeves is standing by her ‘tough decisions’ – but for how long?
1 month, 2 weeks ago

Rachel Reeves is standing by her ‘tough decisions’ – but for how long?

The Independent  

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Keir Starmer warned that elderly people ‘are going to die’ as fears mount over winter fuel cuts
1 month, 2 weeks ago

Keir Starmer warned that elderly people ‘are going to die’ as fears mount over winter fuel cuts

The Independent  

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Winter fuel payments cut will drive 100,000 more pensioners into poverty, minister admits
1 month, 2 weeks ago

Winter fuel payments cut will drive 100,000 more pensioners into poverty, minister admits

The Independent  

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Thousands forced into poverty by winter fuel squeeze, Government estimates
1 month, 2 weeks ago

Thousands forced into poverty by winter fuel squeeze, Government estimates

The Independent  

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Winter fuel allowance axe will leave an extra 100,000 pensioners in poverty, ministers admit
1 month, 2 weeks ago

Winter fuel allowance axe will leave an extra 100,000 pensioners in poverty, ministers admit

Daily Mail  

Scrapping the winter fuel allowance will leave an extra 100,000 pensioners in poverty, ministers admitted today. Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall revealed the estimate for the impact of the controversial policy in a letter to MPs Internal modelling shows that the move will increase numbers in 'relative' poverty after housing costs by 50,000 this year and next, and 100,000 …

Rachel Reeves to face winter fuel cuts fury as protesters target her Leeds constituency
1 month, 3 weeks ago

Rachel Reeves to face winter fuel cuts fury as protesters target her Leeds constituency

The Independent  

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Ministers looking at ‘very long’ form for winter fuel payments
1 month, 4 weeks ago

Ministers looking at ‘very long’ form for winter fuel payments

The Independent  

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Labour facing legal challenge over winter fuel payments cut
2 months ago

Labour facing legal challenge over winter fuel payments cut

The Independent  

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Legal Bid to Stop 'Cruel' UK Government Plan to Axe Winter Fuel Benefit
2 months, 1 week ago

Legal Bid to Stop 'Cruel' UK Government Plan to Axe Winter Fuel Benefit

Al Jazeera  

A couple from Scotland is suing the UK government over its decision to abolish an allowance for at least 10 million elderly people to spend on additional heating fuel in the winter. The government expects to save 1.3 billion pounds ($1.7bn) in the current tax year (2024-25) and 1.5 billion pounds ($1.95bn) in the following year. The couple claims that …

Ministers fear 120,000 of most vulnerable pensioners will miss out on winter fuel payments
2 months, 1 week ago

Ministers fear 120,000 of most vulnerable pensioners will miss out on winter fuel payments

The Independent  

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Warning some pensioners may have to pay back winter fuel payments - here’s what you can do about it
2 months, 3 weeks ago

Warning some pensioners may have to pay back winter fuel payments - here’s what you can do about it

The Independent  

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Shock analysis shows four in every five pensioners struggling with money will see winter fuel payment cut
3 months ago

Shock analysis shows four in every five pensioners struggling with money will see winter fuel payment cut

The Independent  

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Winter fuel payment: Couple suing UK government over loss of benefit scared to turn on their cooker
3 months ago

Winter fuel payment: Couple suing UK government over loss of benefit scared to turn on their cooker

The Independent  

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‘I can’t afford curtains to block out the draught’: The pensioners worst hit by the winter fuel payment cut
3 months ago

‘I can’t afford curtains to block out the draught’: The pensioners worst hit by the winter fuel payment cut

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Charities concerned over limiting winter fuel payments as energy prices rise
3 months, 1 week ago

Charities concerned over limiting winter fuel payments as energy prices rise

The Independent  

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Rachel Reeves warned winter fuel payment cuts won’t save as much money as expected
3 months, 1 week ago

Rachel Reeves warned winter fuel payment cuts won’t save as much money as expected

The Independent  

Sign up for the View from Westminster email for expert analysis straight to your inbox Get our free View from Westminster email Get our free View from Westminster email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Read our privacy policy Cuts to pensioner winter fuel payments will save hundreds of millions …

Charities concerned over limiting winter fuel payments as energy prices rise
3 months, 1 week ago

Charities concerned over limiting winter fuel payments as energy prices rise

The Independent  

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Baloney! You can't blame inflation for your rip-off 49% price hike, Admiral, says JEFF PRESTRIDGE
3 months, 1 week ago

Baloney! You can't blame inflation for your rip-off 49% price hike, Admiral, says JEFF PRESTRIDGE

Daily Mail  

Insurance premium inflation may be heading down, but it isn't tamed, that's for sure. Unwarranted: Insurer Admiral hiked a customers combined motor and home cover from £250 to £350 Earlier this month, I wrote about the sobering experience that ­marketing consultant Danny Russell had with his insurer, Admiral. After my initial article on Danny's experience three weeks ago, I asked …

Almost a third of population in pensioner-heavy areas at risk of losing winter fuel payment cash: Map shows where biggest concentrations of claimants live amid anger at Labour cuts
3 months, 1 week ago

Almost a third of population in pensioner-heavy areas at risk of losing winter fuel payment cash: Map shows where biggest concentrations of claimants live amid anger at Labour cuts

Daily Mail  

Almost a third of the population in some areas of the country are pensioners at risk of losing the winter fuel allowance cash ahead of winter, new data suggests. Sir Keir Starmer and Rachel Reeves have changed the rules for the winter fuel payment, which can be up to £300, to make it means tested as part of cost-cutting measures …

Nearly three million over-80s to be hit by Chancellor’s winter fuel raid
3 months, 1 week ago

Nearly three million over-80s to be hit by Chancellor’s winter fuel raid

The Telegraph  

The data, published in response to a written question from the Lib Dems, also reveal that those in the south of England are expected to fare particularly badly, with the region accounting for nearly half of all pensioners left poorer by the cut. Some 4.5 million people previously able to claim the winter fuel allowance across the South East, South …

Unions win vote to reverse winter fuel cut in blow for Keir Starmer
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Unions win vote to reverse winter fuel cut in blow for Keir Starmer

The Independent  

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Labour conference backs call to reverse winter fuel payment cut
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Labour conference backs call to reverse winter fuel payment cut

The Independent  

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Winter fuel payments: Labour changes explainer and other pension support available
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Winter fuel payments: Labour changes explainer and other pension support available

The Independent  

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Pensioners stage protest against winter fuel cuts at Labour conference
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Pensioners stage protest against winter fuel cuts at Labour conference

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Wes Streeting hints budget cuts will go further than axing winter fuel payment– UK politics live
3 months, 3 weeks ago

Wes Streeting hints budget cuts will go further than axing winter fuel payment– UK politics live

The Independent  

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DWP urged to boost ‘stagnant’ Christmas bonus for benefit claimants to over £100 this winter
3 months, 3 weeks ago

DWP urged to boost ‘stagnant’ Christmas bonus for benefit claimants to over £100 this winter

The Independent  

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Starmer under fresh attack for ‘unbelievably foolish’ winter fuel payment cuts
3 months, 3 weeks ago

Starmer under fresh attack for ‘unbelievably foolish’ winter fuel payment cuts

The Independent  

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How nearly 15,000 pensioners in every Labour constituency will lose their winter fuel payment if Keir Starmer presses ahead with controversial plan to strip benefit from 10 million OAPs
3 months, 3 weeks ago

How nearly 15,000 pensioners in every Labour constituency will lose their winter fuel payment if Keir Starmer presses ahead with controversial plan to strip benefit from 10 million OAPs

Daily Mail  

Some 15,000 pensioners in every Labour constituency will lose their winter fuel payment, a new analysis revealed. A total of six million pensioners who now have a Labour MP will lose the winter fuel payment under his government Only people on pension credit or certain other benefits will receive the winter fuel payments, while about 10 million others are set …

Labour accused of ‘cruelty’ over winter fuel payment cuts as 780,000 pensioners to miss out
3 months, 3 weeks ago

Labour accused of ‘cruelty’ over winter fuel payment cuts as 780,000 pensioners to miss out

The Independent  

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Starmer sympathises with pensioners over winter fuel but dismisses Labour’s own claim 4,000 will die
3 months, 3 weeks ago

Starmer sympathises with pensioners over winter fuel but dismisses Labour’s own claim 4,000 will die

The Independent  

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No winter fuel payments cut impact assessment was done, Starmer admits
3 months, 3 weeks ago

No winter fuel payments cut impact assessment was done, Starmer admits

The Independent  

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How Winter Fuel Payments are changing - and the energy bill help alternatives available for pensioners
3 months, 4 weeks ago

How Winter Fuel Payments are changing - and the energy bill help alternatives available for pensioners

Daily Mail  

Hundreds of thousands of pensioners will lose out on Winter Fuel Payments worth up to £300 each this winter - but there is other energy bill help still available. Losing the Winter Fuel Payment is a blow to pensioners, but the good news is that other energy bill help is available for retirees. Eating or heating: Charities for the elderly …

Reeves defends claiming energy expenses and insists winter fuel cuts right move
3 months, 4 weeks ago

Reeves defends claiming energy expenses and insists winter fuel cuts right move

The Independent  

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Government says it will not ‘water down’ winter fuel payment squeeze
3 months, 4 weeks ago

Government says it will not ‘water down’ winter fuel payment squeeze

The Independent  

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