Google pays more than $10 billion a year to maintain its search dominance, says U.S.
1 year, 3 months ago

Google pays more than $10 billion a year to maintain its search dominance, says U.S.

The Hindu  

Google has exploited its dominance of the internet search market to lock out competitors and smother innovation, the Department of Justice said Tuesday at the opening of the biggest U.S. antitrust trial in a quarter century. “This case is about the future of the internet and whether Google's search engine will ever face meaningful competition,” said Kenneth Dintzer, the Justice Department's lead litigator. The Justice Department filed its antitrust lawsuit against Google nearly three years ago during the Trump administration, alleging that the company has used its internet search dominance to gain an unfair advantage against competitors. Google “began weaponising defaults” more than 15 years ago, Dintzer said, citing an internal Google document calling its arrangements an “Achilles Heel” for rival search engines offered by Yahoo and MSN. “They turned history off, your honour, so they could rewrite it in this court.’’ From Google’s perspective, perpetual improvements to its search engine explain why people almost reflexively keep coming back to it, a habit that long ago made “Googling” synonymous with looking things up on the internet.

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Google tells court it's willing to alter Apple deal, but wants to retain Chrome
3 hours, 31 minutes ago

Google tells court it's willing to alter Apple deal, but wants to retain Chrome

Hindustan Times  

Google has asked the US Department of Justice if it can just not have exclusive deals with companies such as Apple for being the default search engine instead of having to sell its Chrome browser as part of the antitrust proceedings, The Verge reported. This comes after the DOJ demanded the company sell off Chrome, syndicate its search results, avoid …

Google proposes to loosen default search engine deals with Apple and others in US antitrust case
4 days, 3 hours ago

Google proposes to loosen default search engine deals with Apple and others in US antitrust case

Hindustan Times  

Alphabet's Google proposed on Friday a loosening of its agreements with Apple and others to set Google as the default search engine on new devices to address a U.S. ruling that it unlawfully dominates online search. The judge found the agreements give Google a "major, largely unseen advantage over its rivals" and result in most devices in the U.S. coming …

Google proposes altering contracts to correct illegal search monopoly
4 days, 7 hours ago

Google proposes altering contracts to correct illegal search monopoly

LA Times  

A federal judge will decide on solutions to restore competition after ruling Google maintained an illegal monopoly in online search. Last month, the U.S. Department of Justice and several states proposed solutions to fix what it described as Google’s illegal search monopoly that included forcing the company to sell Chrome. Mozilla said that Google was the default search engine in …

Googling is for old people. That’s a problem for Google.
3 weeks, 1 day ago

Googling is for old people. That’s a problem for Google.

Live Mint  

If Google were a ship, it would be the Titanic in the hours before it struck an iceberg—riding high, supposedly unsinkable, and about to encounter a force of nature that could make its name synonymous with catastrophe. The first danger facing Google is clear and present: When people want to search for information or go shopping on the internet, they …

Bad news for Apple and Google: UK initiates investigation into mobile browser dominance | Full story
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1 month ago

Bad news for Apple and Google: UK initiates investigation into mobile browser dominance | Full story

India TV News  

London: Apple and Google aren't giving consumers a genuine choice of mobile web browsers, a British watchdog said on Friday in a report that recommends they face an investigation under new UK digital rules taking effect next year. Apple and Google manipulate the choices: Report The CMA's report also found that Apple and Google manipulate the choices given to mobile …

Chamber of Progress CEO: Google's Chrome Sale Unlikely
1 month ago

Chamber of Progress CEO: Google's Chrome Sale Unlikely

Bloomberg  

00:00 Did that take you by surprise than the U.K. has already said, look, we're okay. And now I think what you see happening now that Biden's Justice Department has won the case, they don't seem that interested in the core of the case, which was really search default agreements and instead are treating it as a kind of vehicle …

Why the US forced sale of Google's Chrome faces legal hurdles
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1 month ago

Why the US forced sale of Google's Chrome faces legal hurdles

India TV News  

Efforts by U.S. antitrust regulators to break up Alphabet by forcing a sale of its Google Chrome browser and other proposals to limit its search dominance are likely to run into legal challenges on grounds the remedies are extreme. Google called the DOJ's approach "unprecedented government overreach that would harm American consumers, developers, and small businesses," giving as examples diminished …

What you need to know about the proposed measures designed to curb Google's search monopoly
1 month ago

What you need to know about the proposed measures designed to curb Google's search monopoly

The Independent  

For free real time breaking news alerts sent straight to your inbox sign up to our breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. The sweeping set of recommendations filed late Wednesday by …

What you need to know about the proposed measures designed to curb Google’s search monopoly
1 month ago

What you need to know about the proposed measures designed to curb Google’s search monopoly

Associated Press  

U.S. regulators are proposing aggressive measures to restore competition to the online search market after a federal judge ruled Google maintained an illegal monopoly for the last decade. The sweeping set of recommendations filed late Wednesday by the U.S. Department of Justice could radically alter Google’s business, including possibly spinning off the Chrome web browser and syndicating its search data …

U.S. govt calls for breakup of Google and Chrome
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1 month ago

U.S. govt calls for breakup of Google and Chrome

Raw Story  

The U.S. government late Wednesday asked a judge to order the dismantling of Google by selling its widely used Chrome browser in a major antitrust crackdown on the internet giant. In a court filing, the U.S. Department of Justice urged a shake-up of Google's business that includes banning deals for Google to be the default search engine on smartphones and …

US govt calls for breakup of Google and Chrome
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1 month ago

US govt calls for breakup of Google and Chrome

Deccan Chronicle  

Washington: The US government late Wednesday asked a judge to order the dismantling of Google by selling its widely used Chrome browser in a major antitrust crackdown on the internet giant. In a court filing, the US Department of Justice urged a shake-up of Google's business that includes banning deals for Google to be the default search engine on smartphones …

Google Break-Up: US Regulator Could Force Search Giant To Sell Off Chrome, Stop Android Favour
1 month ago

Google Break-Up: US Regulator Could Force Search Giant To Sell Off Chrome, Stop Android Favour

ABP News  

US regulators are ramping up efforts to dismantle Google’s monopoly power, proposing a breakup of the tech giant that could see its Chrome web browser sold off and its Android software stripped of preferential treatment for its search engine. These include halting multibillion-dollar agreements that make Google the default search engine on devices like Apple’s iPhone and requiring Google to …

Google Selling Chrome Won’t Be Enough to End Its Search Monopoly
54 years, 11 months ago

Google Selling Chrome Won’t Be Enough to End Its Search Monopoly

Wired  

To dismantle Google’s illegal monopoly over how Americans search the web, the US Department of Justice wants the tech giant to end its lucrative partnership with Apple, share a trove of proprietary data with competitors and advertisers, and “promptly and fully divest Chrome,” Google’s browser that controls more than half of the US market. On Wednesday, Google president Kent Walker …

Google could be forced to sell Chrome. Here’s what you need to know
1 month ago

Google could be forced to sell Chrome. Here’s what you need to know

LA Times  

The Department of Justice is proposing that a federal judge break up Google to restore competition to the online search market. As part of their proposed penalties, Justice Department officials also suggested the judge impose restrictions on Android, Google’s mobile operating system, to prevent it from favoring Google products. The Department of Justice says forcing Google to divest Chrome would …

Google must sell Chrome to end search monopoly, US prosecutors argue
1 month ago

Google must sell Chrome to end search monopoly, US prosecutors argue

Al Jazeera  

The Department of Justice said Google had ‘deprived rivals’ of opportunities to expand their search engine market share. In a court filing on Wednesday, the US Department of Justice argued that Google, which controls about 90 percent of the online search market, should not be allowed to re-enter the browser market for five years and should sell its Android mobile …

US govt may demand Google sell Chrome: Why and what does it mean for users, full story in 5 points
1 month ago

US govt may demand Google sell Chrome: Why and what does it mean for users, full story in 5 points

India Today  

A few months ago a US court deemed Google a Search “monopoly”. A fresh report says that if Google is indeed forced to sell Chrome, the Chrome division might end up being a company with a valuation of around $20 billion. 2- Google says Chrome separation would be bad for users Since August when US District Judge Amit Mehta delivered …

Alphabet's Strong Performance Offers Clues for the Future of Google
1 month, 3 weeks ago

Alphabet's Strong Performance Offers Clues for the Future of Google

Live Mint  

Google's Q3 results show strong performance, with revenue and operating income exceeding Wall Street expectations. The company's cloud-computing operation, Google Cloud, saw significant growth, while its services segment generated a healthy profit despite some concerns about AI spending. Despite the challenges posed by antitrust cases, Alphabet is committed to delivering a robust bottom line and maintaining its status as a …

Google's AI-Fueled Profits Continue Despite Regulatory Threats
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1 month, 3 weeks ago

Google's AI-Fueled Profits Continue Despite Regulatory Threats

Associated Press  

Google's financial performance remains strong despite challenges from AI and regulatory scrutiny. The company's profits and revenue increased due to its moneymaking machine powered by its search engine, but this is primarily attributed to the AI investments. The company is facing legal challenges from the US Department of Justice and Virginia state authorities regarding its search engine and digital advertising …

Google's Monopoly In Search Is Coming To An End? OpenAI's Search GPT Poses A Serious Threat To The Tech Giant
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google's Monopoly In Search Is Coming To An End? OpenAI's Search GPT Poses A Serious Threat To The Tech Giant

ABP News  

The days of Google having the monopoly in the market might be getting over sooner than we expected. The tech giant might be facing a huge threat from Sam Altman's OpenAI while it waits for Washington's antitrust regulators' plans to level the playing field in the business of internet search. Reuters quoted Arvind Jain, a former Google engineer who worked …

Apple will retain Google as default search engine in Safari; wont force its users to switch to Bing
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Apple will retain Google as default search engine in Safari; wont force its users to switch to Bing

The Hindu  

Apple is set to retain Google as the default search engine on its Safari browser. While Apple users can change the default search engines on iOS devices anytime, the tech giant says it has no plans to make a switch in the current default. Apple receives $20 billion annually from Google to ensure it is the default search engine in …

A US Judge Ruled That Google Is an Illegal Monopolist. Here's What Might Come Next
54 years, 11 months ago

A US Judge Ruled That Google Is an Illegal Monopolist. Here's What Might Come Next

Wired  

Unbox a new phone in the US and it's almost certain to have Google as the default way to search the web. Federal judge Amit Mehta on Monday ruled in favor of the US Department of Justice that the contracts Google uses to secure that position violate fair competition laws. Mehta scheduled a hearing for September to begin the process …

A judge has branded Google a monopolist, but AI may bring about quicker change in internet search
4 months, 2 weeks ago

A judge has branded Google a monopolist, but AI may bring about quicker change in internet search

Associated Press  

SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge has branded Google as a ruthless monopolist bent on suffocating its competitors. Even so, Mehta’s 277-page ruling Monday creates challenges for Google that company founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin probably didn’t envision when they set out to revolutionize internet search while attending Stanford University as graduate students. The default option then helped Google …

Google antitrust ruling: A judge said the company is a monopoly, in a blow to the tech industry.
54 years, 11 months ago

Google antitrust ruling: A judge said the company is a monopoly, in a blow to the tech industry.

Slate  

On Monday, a judge ruled that Google holds a monopoly on the markets for online search engines and text-based search advertising services. For more, here’s a breakdown of some of the biggest takeaways from Mehta’s long U.S. v. Google filing: Google Monopolized the Markets The decision found that Google was an effective monopolist in two specific markets, defined by the …

Google has an illegal monopoly for online search, US judge rules in huge blow to tech giant
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google has an illegal monopoly for online search, US judge rules in huge blow to tech giant

Daily Mail  

A US judge on Monday ruled in a landmark anti-trust case that Google has maintained an illegal monopoly with its dominant search engine. Google CEO Sundar Pichai gave testimony during a 10-week trial last year Google's president of global affairs said the company intends to appeal District Court Judge Amrit Mehta's findings. He also pointed out that Mehta concluded Google …

Google Has Acted As A Monopoly, Violated Competition Illegally: US Judge Says About Company's Practices
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google Has Acted As A Monopoly, Violated Competition Illegally: US Judge Says About Company's Practices

News 18  

Google has once again made the headlines regarding its search monopoly in the market and how it has been able to pump billions into the segment illegally and push competition way behind. U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta on Monday ruled that Google had violated antitrust law by spending billions of dollars to secure exclusive agreements with developers, carriers and equipment …

Google has illegal monopoly over internet search, US judge rules
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google has illegal monopoly over internet search, US judge rules

Al Jazeera  

The case depicted Google as a technological bully that methodically thwarted competition to protect its search engine. Google’s search engine processes an estimated 8.5 billion queries every day worldwide, nearly double its daily volume from 12 years ago, according to a recent study by investment firm BOND. Google’s global affairs president, Kent Walker, said the company would appeal the ruling, …

US judge rules Google has a monopoly on search in antitrust case
4 months, 2 weeks ago

US judge rules Google has a monopoly on search in antitrust case

ABC  

Google broke the law with its monopoly over online searches and related ads, a federal judge has ruled, marking the US Department of Justice's first victory against a monopoly in over 20 years. Judge Mehta's ruling against Alphabet's major revenue driver paves the way for a second trial to determine potential fixes, such as requiring the company to stop paying …

Google Search Is an Illegal Monopoly, US Judge Rules
54 years, 11 months ago

Google Search Is an Illegal Monopoly, US Judge Rules

Wired  

Google is now 0 for 2 in antitrust trials. United States district judge Amit Mehta ruled on Monday that Google has unlawfully maintained its dominance in search by using anticompetitive deals to keep rivals from gaining traction. “The trial evidence firmly established that Google’s monopoly power, maintained by the exclusive distribution agreements, has enabled Google to increase text ads prices …

Google Loses Massive Antitrust Case Over Search Dominance
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google Loses Massive Antitrust Case Over Search Dominance

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING WASHINGTON — A judge on Monday ruled that Google’s ubiquitous search engine has been illegally exploiting its dominance to squash competition and stifle innovation, a seismic decision that could shake up the internet and hobble one of the world’s best-known companies. Google’s search engine processes an estimated 8.5 billion queries per day worldwide, nearly doubling its daily …

Google loses major antitrust case over search, declared a monopoly by judge
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google loses major antitrust case over search, declared a monopoly by judge

LA Times  

In a major blow to Google, a federal judge on Monday ruled that the tech giant violated antitrust laws by illegally maintaining a monopoly on web searches. “As this process continues, we will remain focused on making products that people find helpful and easy to use.” Regulators alleged that Google maintained a monopoly on web searches by reaching agreements with …

Google abused its power to maintain monopoly on search, US court rules
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Google abused its power to maintain monopoly on search, US court rules

The Telegraph  

Google abused its power to maintain an illegal monopoly over the online search market, a US judge has ruled. Kent Walker, president of Google global affairs, said the company planned to appeal and said: “This decision recognizes that Google offers the best search engine, but concludes that we shouldn’t be allowed to make it easily available.” The case was bought …

Google, Justice Department make final arguments about whether search engine is a monopoly
7 months, 3 weeks ago

Google, Justice Department make final arguments about whether search engine is a monopoly

Associated Press  

WASHINGTON — Google’s preeminence as an internet search engine is an illegal monopoly propped up by more than $20 billion spent each year by the tech giant to lock out competition, Justice Department lawyers argued at the closings of a high-stakes antitrust lawsuit. “It would be an unprecedented decision to punish a company for winning on the merits,” Google’s lawyer, …

Would You Still Use Google if It Didn't Pay Apple $20 Billion to Get on Your iPhone?
54 years, 11 months ago

Would You Still Use Google if It Didn't Pay Apple $20 Billion to Get on Your iPhone?

Wired  

Microsoft has poured over $100 billion into developing its Bing search engine over the past two decades but has little market share to show for it. Mehta heard closing arguments on Thursday, with government attorneys arguing that without his intervention Google’s dominance would remain in years to come—despite nascent threats from AI chatbots like ChatGPT. Central to the government’s case …

Google Being Penny Wise, Pound Foolish: Spent over $2bn laying people off in 2023, $700mn in 2024
10 months, 3 weeks ago

Google Being Penny Wise, Pound Foolish: Spent over $2bn laying people off in 2023, $700mn in 2024

Firstpost  

Google spent a substantial $2.1 billion on severance packages and associated costs while downsizing its workforce by over 12,000 employees throughout 2023, as per a report by The Verge. Key contributors to this growth were Google’s core digital advertising and cloud computing businesses, which demonstrated consistent expansion, attributed by CEO Sundar Pichai to investments in generative AI. Despite the layoffs, …

From ‘Don’t be evil’ to anti-trust: Google turns 25
1 year ago

From ‘Don’t be evil’ to anti-trust: Google turns 25

Hindustan Times  

In 1998, almost a quarter of a century after its founding, Microsoft found itself facing a legal challenge. The hearing for the landmark United States vs Microsoft began in May, with district attorneys challenging the company’s strategy of bundling its Internet Explorer browser with its Windows operating system, making it the default option for users who wanted to surf the …

Sundar Pichai's 'Apples and Oranges' analogy - Explained | Why Apple gets a larger share from Google?
1 year, 1 month ago

Sundar Pichai's 'Apples and Oranges' analogy - Explained | Why Apple gets a larger share from Google?

India TV News  

Sundar Pichai on Google Search Revenue Sharing: Recently, Google has been accused of favoring Apple over Samsung, sparking a court investigation. Google's CEO, Sundar Pichai, responded by admitting that 36 percent of the search revenue goes to Apple. Apples and Oranges Analogy Pichai stated that treating Samsung and Apple equally in revenue sharing is like expecting apples and oranges to …

This is how much Google pays Apple for the money it makes through Safari
1 year, 1 month ago

This is how much Google pays Apple for the money it makes through Safari

India Today  

Google is currently facing an antitrust lawsuit from the U.S. Justice Department, alleging that the tech giant is illegally maintaining a monopoly in online search and related advertising markets. Although the exact amount Google pays has never been officially disclosed by either Google or the smartphone makers, a recent testimony by an main economics expert for the Alphabet Inc. unit, …

Google gives Apple 36pc of ad revenue from Safari browser, court hears
1 year, 1 month ago

Google gives Apple 36pc of ad revenue from Safari browser, court hears

The Telegraph  

Google gives Apple a 36pc cut of advertising revenue from its searches made in its Safari browser, a court has heard. The US Department of Justice has accused Google of abusing its dominant position by paying billions to ensure that its search engine remains the default on smartphones and browsers. According to Prof Murphy, Apple receives 36pc of all advertising …

Column: Google’s dominance affects us all. Why is its trial being held in secret?
1 year, 1 month ago

Column: Google’s dominance affects us all. Why is its trial being held in secret?

LA Times  

Google: Maker of the best search engine, or just the most popular? Bing’s share is so meager that specialized search providers — think Open Table and TripAdvisor — “have little interest in working with Microsoft, except, perhaps, as an after-thought,” according to the plaintiffs’ pretrial brief. The technical arguments raised at the trial turn on whether Google’s arrangements with the …

Google CEO Sundar Pichai defends paying Apple and others to make Google search the default on devices
1 year, 1 month ago

Google CEO Sundar Pichai defends paying Apple and others to make Google search the default on devices

The Hindu  

Testifying in the biggest U.S. antitrust case in a quarter century, Google CEO Sundar Pichai defended his company’s practice of paying Apple and other tech companies to make Google the default search engine on their devices, saying the intent was to make the user experience “seamless and easy.’’ The Department of Justice contends that Google — a company whose very …

Google CEO defends paying Apple and others to make Google the default search engine on devices
1 year, 1 month ago

Google CEO defends paying Apple and others to make Google the default search engine on devices

Associated Press  

WASHINGTON — Testifying in the biggest U.S. antitrust case in a quarter century, Google CEO Sundar Pichai defended his company’s practice of paying Apple and other tech companies to make Google the default search engine on their devices, saying the intent was to make the user experience “seamless and easy.’’ The Department of Justice contends that Google — a company …

Google paid $26 bln to be default search engine in 2021 - Bloomberg News
1 year, 1 month ago

Google paid $26 bln to be default search engine in 2021 - Bloomberg News

The Hindu  

Alphabet's Google paid $26.3 billion to other companies in 2021 to ensure its search engine was the default on web browsers and mobile phones, a top company executive testified during the Justice Department's antitrust trial, Bloomberg News reported on Friday. The amount of payments Google made for the default status has more than tripled since 2014, according to senior executive …

Grandpa Google? Tech giant begins antitrust defense by poking fun at its status among youth
1 year, 1 month ago

Grandpa Google? Tech giant begins antitrust defense by poking fun at its status among youth

Associated Press  

WASHINGTON — A top Google executive testified Thursday that the company’s success is precarious and said its leadership fears their product could slide into irrelevance with younger internet users. Prabhakar Raghavan, Google’s senior vice president for knowledge and information products, testified for the tech giant as it defends itself in the biggest antitrust trial in the last 25 years. “But …

Google made $77 billion in July-September this year, but investors are unhappy. Here’s why
1 year, 1 month ago

Google made $77 billion in July-September this year, but investors are unhappy. Here’s why

Firstpost  

Google exceeded their revenue expectations from its search and ad businesses between July-September this year. However, their cloud services fell short, with an operating income of $266 million, against a projection of $434 million Google’s parent company Alphabet made a pretty sizeable $77 billion between the months of July-September this year. The company’s search advertising segment also performed well, bringing …

What Google’s antitrust trial means for your search habits
1 year, 2 months ago

What Google’s antitrust trial means for your search habits

Associated Press  

If government regulators prevail against Google in the biggest U.S. antitrust trial in a quarter century, it’s likely to unleash drastic changes that will undermine the dominance of a search engine that defines the internet for billions of people. If people still choose to use Google, that is at least a consumer choice, which would better than having people stick …

‘Deal with Apple doesn’t look good’: Sundar Pichai warned Google's founders before assuming CEO role
1 year, 2 months ago

‘Deal with Apple doesn’t look good’: Sundar Pichai warned Google's founders before assuming CEO role

Firstpost  

Sundar Pichai had told Google’s founders that their deal with Apple to be the default search engine had very bad optics and would create a bad impression, years before he was made the CEO. The emails reveal concerns about Google’s agreement with Apple Inc. to be the default search engine on the Safari web browser. He wrote, “I know we …

Sundar Pichai expressed ‘bad optics’ concerns over Google's search engine partnership with Apple
1 year, 2 months ago

Sundar Pichai expressed ‘bad optics’ concerns over Google's search engine partnership with Apple

Hindustan Times  

Sundar Pichai had raised concerns over Google's search engine partnership with Apple, years before he became the CEO of the company. The Justice Department says that Google pays Apple $10 billion to remain the default search engine on Apple devices, including the iPhone. Google CEO Sundar Pichai As per evidence produced by the Justice Department during the ongoing antitrust trial, …

Sundar Pichai had warned Google about ‘bad optics’ of Apple search partnership: ‘Have Yahoo as a choice’
1 year, 2 months ago

Sundar Pichai had warned Google about ‘bad optics’ of Apple search partnership: ‘Have Yahoo as a choice’

Live Mint  

Google CEO Sundar Pichai had expressed concerns about the search giant's exclusive partnership with Apple. Google pays the Cupertino-based tech giant billions of dollars to have Google search as the default search engine on all of its devices, including the iPhone, iPad and Mac. Pichai, who was in-charge of the company's Chrome browser, had shared his concerns about Google paying …

Microsoft-Google Clash & Other Learnings From the First Big Tech Antitrust Trial
1 year, 2 months ago

Microsoft-Google Clash & Other Learnings From the First Big Tech Antitrust Trial

The Quint  

These battles are nothing new. They revolve around various issues such as antitrust concerns, data privacy, market dominance, and competition. But the fact that regulators have opened the canvas of these fights is interesting because of two reasons: Firstly, it gives a wider opportunity for the regulators to understand the intricacies of the products and solutions in the market and …

DuckDuckGo CEO says Google's billions got in the way of a deal with Apple
1 year, 2 months ago

DuckDuckGo CEO says Google's billions got in the way of a deal with Apple

The Hindu  

The CEO of privacy-oriented search engine DuckDuckGo said its talks with Apple about a potential contract failed because the smartphone maker was reluctant to give up Google's multibillion dollar paychecks, according to newly transcripts of a landmark antitrust trial of the Alphabet unit. Gabriel Weinberg, who also founded the company, testified on Sept 21 on the effect on DuckDuckGo of …

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