‘You can’t get away from it’: Third of teens in UK seeing real-life violence on TikTok and more than half on other social media
1 year, 4 months ago

‘You can’t get away from it’: Third of teens in UK seeing real-life violence on TikTok and more than half on other social media

The Independent  

Get the free Morning Headlines email for news from our reporters across the world Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email Please enter a valid email address Please enter a valid email address SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. When asked why young people commit acts of violence in their area, 42 per cent of teenage children said they thought social media was a major factor, as did 52 per cent of adults. Jibril Rose, 19, a YEF Youth Advisory Board member, said one of the biggest challenges facing young people is that they “can’t get away” from seeing violence on TikTok. As well as showing children violence, 42 per cent of teenagers think that social media is one of the factors driving it “The crazy thing about TikTok is that you can’t hide from it,” he said. “When it comes to TikTok and the algorithms on there, these young people are kind of almost being forced to witness this.” He added: “You do worry about their mental health when it comes to what they’re seeing online.” Tranai said more needs to be done by social media giants such as TikTok to moderate violent content being shown online.

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'Social media isn't the only problem': Therapist shares key lessons from Netflix’s Adolescence series
4 days, 15 hours ago

'Social media isn't the only problem': Therapist shares key lessons from Netflix’s Adolescence series

Hindustan Times  

Adolescence has quickly become one of Netflix's most talked-about series of 2025, leaving viewers hooked on the chilling story of accused teen murderer Jamie Miller. Social media isn't the only problem Divija shares, "A lot of people believe that social media is the reason Jamie became a murderer, but that's not the full picture. Banning social media won't solve anything …

Child's heartbreaking answer that shows how mobiles have ruined lives of a generation - as terrifying consequences for their brains are revealed
2 weeks ago

Child's heartbreaking answer that shows how mobiles have ruined lives of a generation - as terrifying consequences for their brains are revealed

Daily Mail  

Generation Zombie by Charlotte Armitage There are currently 987,000 16 to 24-year-olds at a loose end, neither in education or employment, slumped at home, a quarter of them complaining of precarious mental health – ‘zoned out’ in Charlotte Armitage’s phrase, ‘zombified’, by gazing at the little screens on their phones, an addiction every bit as bad as drinking, drugs or …

Bid to stop children 'doom scrolling' on social media apps such as TikTok and Snapchat is watered down after Labour ministers oppose tough crackdown
3 weeks, 4 days ago

Bid to stop children 'doom scrolling' on social media apps such as TikTok and Snapchat is watered down after Labour ministers oppose tough crackdown

Daily Mail  

A bid to restrict children's use of smartphones to prevent them 'doom scrolling' on social media has been watered down after ministers opposed the measures. Labour MP Josh MacAlister proposed legislation to protect under-16s from addictive social media content on sites like TikTok and Snapchat. Labour MP Josh MacAlister proposed legislation to protect under-16s from addictive social media content on …

TikTok, Meta and Snapchat slam YouTube's proposed exemption from social media ban
3 weeks, 4 days ago

TikTok, Meta and Snapchat slam YouTube's proposed exemption from social media ban

ABC  

The federal government has been accused of making a "sweetheart deal" to exempt YouTube from the teen social media ban, as YouTube's competitors kick off a co-ordinated public campaign against the move. In its submission, TikTok calls it a "sweetheart deal" and said exempting YouTube from the teen social media ban would be "akin to banning the sale of soft …

TikTok accuses Australia of favouritism in social media crackdown, targets YouTube’s special treatment
Trending News
3 weeks, 5 days ago

TikTok accuses Australia of favouritism in social media crackdown, targets YouTube’s special treatment

Live Mint  

TikTok has strongly criticised the Australian government for exempting YouTube from a sweeping social media crackdown that will see under-16s banned from most platforms, reported Bloomberg. Meta’s submission stated that the special treatment afforded to YouTube “makes a mockery of the government’s stated intention to protect young people.” However, TikTok’s response has been the most outspoken, reflecting its frustration that …

UK launches investigation into TikTok, Reddit over children's personal data practices
3 weeks, 6 days ago

UK launches investigation into TikTok, Reddit over children's personal data practices

The Hindu  

Britain's privacy watchdog, the Information Commissioner's Office, on Monday launched an investigation into how TikTok, Reddit and online image sharing website Imgur safeguard children's privacy. The watchdog said it is probing how ByteDance's short-form video-sharing platform TikTok uses 13–17-year-olds' personal information to suggest content in their feed. Britain has previously passed legislation that set tougher rules for social media platforms, …

UK watchdog cracks down on TikTok, Reddit over children's privacy concerns
3 weeks, 6 days ago

UK watchdog cracks down on TikTok, Reddit over children's privacy concerns

Firstpost  

The watchdog is investigating how ByteDance’s short-form video-sharing site TikTok utilises personal information from 13-17-year-olds to recommend material in their feed The Information Commissioner’s Office, Britain’s privacy watchdog, began looking into how Reddit, TikTok, and online picture sharing platform Imgur protect children’s privacy on Monday. The watchdog is investigating how ByteDance’s short-form video-sharing site TikTok utilises personal information from 13-17-year-olds …

Are You A Bad Person For Using TikTok? How To Handle The 'Ick' For Apps You Don't Want To Quit.
1 month, 3 weeks ago

Are You A Bad Person For Using TikTok? How To Handle The 'Ick' For Apps You Don't Want To Quit.

Huff Post  

Illustration: HuffPost; Photos: Getty Creators shared advice for how they are changing the ways they engage with social media while also managing their "ick." For LGBTQ+ travel creator Kristin Holden, social media is her primary income and how she earned around $40,000 last year, but it’s also a major source of “ick.” Holden’s first thought on seeing the TikTok pop-up …

Their Parents May Not Know It, But Most 11- And 12-Year-Olds Are On TikTok
1 month, 3 weeks ago

Their Parents May Not Know It, But Most 11- And 12-Year-Olds Are On TikTok

Huff Post  

LOADING ERROR LOADING The video-sharing app TikTok briefly went dark on Jan. 19, days after a Supreme Court ruling upholding a law requiring that it be sold by its Chinese owner, ByteDance. Dr. Jason Nagata, professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco and one of the study’s authors, told HuffPost, “this highlights a significant issue with the …

15-year-old American-born girl shot dead by father in Pakistan over TikTok videos
2 months ago

15-year-old American-born girl shot dead by father in Pakistan over TikTok videos

Live Mint  

A man who recently brought his family back to Pakistan from the United States confessed on Wednesday to shooting dead his teenage daughter, motivated by his disapproval of her TikTok content, reported Reuters quoting Pakistani police. Baloch added the family had recently returned to Balochistan province in predominantly Muslim Pakistan, a nation with conservative social norms, having lived in the …

US-born girl shot dead by father in Pakistan over TikTok videos, say police
2 months ago

US-born girl shot dead by father in Pakistan over TikTok videos, say police

CNN  

Reuters — A man who had recently brought his family back to Pakistan from the United States on Wednesday confessed to shooting dead his teenage daughter, motivated by his disapproval of her TikTok content, Pakistani police said. “We are probing all aspects, including honour killing.” The family had recently returned to Balochistan province in predominantly Muslim Pakistan, a nation with …

TikTok sued in France for ’brainwashing teens into suicide’; ByteDance refutes allegations
2 months ago

TikTok sued in France for ’brainwashing teens into suicide’; ByteDance refutes allegations

Live Mint  

An unfortunate incident that took place three years ago still remains a pressing concern, shining a harsh light on the darker side of social media. Delving into her daughter’s phone after the tragedy, Mistre was horrified to find an array of videos promoting suicide methods, tutorials, and comments that encouraged users to go beyond “mere suicide attempts.” According to Mistre, …

Families sue TikTok in France over teen suicides they say are linked to harmful content
2 months, 1 week ago

Families sue TikTok in France over teen suicides they say are linked to harmful content

Associated Press  

CASSIS, France — In the moment when her world shattered three years ago, Stephanie Mistre found her 15-year-old daughter, Marie, lifeless in the bedroom where she died by suicide. ___ Delving into her daughter’s phone after her death, Mistre discovered videos promoting suicide methods, tutorials and comments encouraging users to go beyond “mere suicide attempts.” She said TikTok’s algorithm had …

What dies with TikTok? As a ban looms, Americans face a cultural void
2 months, 1 week ago

What dies with TikTok? As a ban looms, Americans face a cultural void

BBC  

What dies with TikTok? But the possibility of TikTok's demise in the US has led users and creators to contemplate moving to other platforms, whether established ones in the American market like YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels, or newcomers like Red Note, another Chinese social media platform. "TikTok's algorithm seems to be a lot more generous", says Kay Perron, a …

Small businesses brace themselves for potentially disruptive TikTok ban
2 months, 4 weeks ago

Small businesses brace themselves for potentially disruptive TikTok ban

Associated Press  

A looming TikTok ban could affect the millions of small businesses that use the short-video social media app to help them grow their business. According to TikTok’s own estimates, small businesses on TikTok would lose more than $1 billion in revenue in a single month if the ban goes into effect. The Justice Department ordered the app’s China-based parent company, …

Albania announces shutdown of TikTok for at least a year
Top News
3 months, 1 week ago

Albania announces shutdown of TikTok for at least a year

The Hindu  

Albania on Saturday announced a one-year ban on TikTok, the popular short video app, following the killing of a teenager last month that raised fears over the influence of social media on children. Prime Minister Edi Rama said after meeting with parents' groups and teachers from across the country that the ban, part of a broader plan to make schools …

Albania to ban TikTok for a year, blaming it for promoting violence among children
3 months, 1 week ago

Albania to ban TikTok for a year, blaming it for promoting violence among children

ABC  

Albania has announced a one-year ban on TikTok following the killing of a teenager last month that raised fears over the influence of social media on children. Albania's PM blamed social media, and TikTok in particular, for fuelling violence among youth in and outside school. Mr Rama has blamed social media, and TikTok in particular, for fuelling violence among youth …

Albania bans TikTok for a year after killing of teenager
3 months, 1 week ago

Albania bans TikTok for a year after killing of teenager

CNN  

Tirana Reuters — Albania on Saturday announced a one-year ban on TikTok, the popular short video app, following the killing of a teenager last month that raised fears over the influence of social media on children. The ban, part of a broader plan to make schools safer, will come into effect early next year, Prime Minister Edi Rama said after …

Albania bans TikTok for one year after school stabbing
3 months, 1 week ago

Albania bans TikTok for one year after school stabbing

Al Jazeera  

The government’s decision comes after a 14-year-old boy was stabbed to death by a classmate following a social media fight. Albania has announced a ban on TikTok for one year after the killing of a teenager last month raised concerns over the influence of social media on children. The ban of the popular video app will come into effect early …

Dutch MP will propose banning children under 15 from using social media
3 months, 1 week ago

Dutch MP will propose banning children under 15 from using social media

NL Times  

Dutch political party D66 is advocating for a minimum age of 15 for social media platforms such as TikTok, Instagram, and Snapchat. “Tech giants are harming children’s health because social media is deliberately designed to be addictive,” said D66 parliamentarian Hanneke van der Werf, according to RTL." “The Netherlands doesn’t let cigarette manufacturers determine and enforce age restrictions,” Van der …

Smartphones and social media 'toxic' for children under 14, psychologist Jonathan Haidt says
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Smartphones and social media 'toxic' for children under 14, psychologist Jonathan Haidt says

ABC  

Children's widespread use of smartphones and tablets has been labelled "insanity" by a United States social psychologist, who says Australia is "leading the way" with its "bold" new social media laws. Support for young people The Butterfly Foundation: National helpline 1800 33 4673 ReachOut Australia: Confidential online peer support and resources Headspace: Check out eheadspace for online support The Kids …

Can parents get behind the Aussie ban on social media for kids?
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Can parents get behind the Aussie ban on social media for kids?

Live Mint  

“I wish I could move to Australia!" That was a sentiment expressed by a mother of two teen boys soon after she heard about Australia’s recent decision to bar children under 16 from using social media. Of course, parents need to set strict boundaries with children and not have to rely on a ban, but let’s face it, social media …

Nearly half of American teens are on the internet ‘almost constantly.’ Here’s what they’re viewing
3 months, 2 weeks ago

Nearly half of American teens are on the internet ‘almost constantly.’ Here’s what they’re viewing

The Independent  

Sign up to our free weekly IndyTech newsletter delivered straight to your inbox Sign up to our free IndyTech newsletter Sign up to our free IndyTech newsletter SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Seventy-five percent of teens aged 15 to 17 are more likely to use social media than teens …

New TikTok challenge leaves users across the world in hospital
3 months, 3 weeks ago

New TikTok challenge leaves users across the world in hospital

The Independent  

Get the free Morning Headlines email for news from our reporters across the world Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. The country saw several young people injured in connection with the popular “Superman challenge” …

Texas weighs social media bans for minors as schools and police face challenges
3 months, 3 weeks ago

Texas weighs social media bans for minors as schools and police face challenges

Associated Press  

As school districts struggle to control the spread of cyberbullying, sexual abuse images and online exploitation among their students, Texas lawmakers could consider banning social media from minors, among other sweeping measures, in the upcoming legislative session. While they welcome any efforts to reduce harm to children, school officials and cybercrime investigators say more needs to be done to hold …

JUST SPAMMING | Can social media be kept out of the child's reach?
4 months ago

JUST SPAMMING | Can social media be kept out of the child's reach?

Deccan Chronicle  

The latest news from down under is rather baffling. The Online Safety Amendment Act 2024 passed by the Australian Senate last week seeks to ban children below the age of 16 from using social media apps like TikTok, Facebook, Reddit, Snapchat, Instagram and X. Because in the Indian context, 70 per cent of the children access social media from their …

Safety is ‘at the core’ of TikTok, European executive says
4 months ago

Safety is ‘at the core’ of TikTok, European executive says

The Independent  

Sign up to our free weekly IndyTech newsletter delivered straight to your inbox Sign up to our free IndyTech newsletter Sign up to our free IndyTech newsletter SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Read our privacy policy The safety of TikTok users “is at the core of the platform”, one …

JOCELYN BREWER: I'm a child psychologist. Here's five reasons why the plan to ban social media for kids is fatally flawed - including a nasty surprise for baby boomers
4 months, 1 week ago

JOCELYN BREWER: I'm a child psychologist. Here's five reasons why the plan to ban social media for kids is fatally flawed - including a nasty surprise for baby boomers

Daily Mail  

I have spent years working with teens, as a teacher and school counsellor in NSW public schools, and now in private practice as a psychologist and cyberpsychology educator for all ages. But I don't believe that hasty plans to ban teens from social media are an effective or meaningful way to address concerns about the youth mental health crisis. We …

Social media and online games ban might protect teens — but at what cost?
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Social media and online games ban might protect teens — but at what cost?

ABC  

As Australia's government ponders an unprecedented ban on social media use by under 16s, I can report from the front lines of juvenile social media activity that the troops are nervous. It is superimposed on a drawing of Australia and surrounded by social media apps As a social media summit this week discusses the merits of Australia's proposed world-leading ban …

Australia’s plan to ban children from social media proves popular and problematic
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Australia’s plan to ban children from social media proves popular and problematic

Associated Press  

MELBOURNE, Australia — How do you protect children from the harms of social media? The Australian government’s plan to ban children from social media platforms including X, TikTok, Facebook and Instagram until their 16th birthdays is politically popular. More than 140 such experts signed an open letter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese condemning the 16-year age limit as “too blunt …

Australia's plan to ban children from social media proves popular and problematic
4 months, 2 weeks ago

Australia's plan to ban children from social media proves popular and problematic

The Independent  

For free real time breaking news alerts sent straight to your inbox sign up to our breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. The Australian government’s plan to ban children from social …

How early, unsupervised social media exposure harms children
4 months, 2 weeks ago

How early, unsupervised social media exposure harms children

India Today  

Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese, on November 7, announced that children under the age of 16 will be banned from using social media as part of efforts to protect the mental health of the young. Several child and teen suicides or accidents have been recorded globally due to following social media trends, such as the ice bucket challenge, planking, blue …

Childhood Trauma and Addiction to Short-Form Video Content: A Psychological Perspective
4 months, 4 weeks ago

Childhood Trauma and Addiction to Short-Form Video Content: A Psychological Perspective

Hindustan Times  

The allure of short-form video content stems from its ability to provide instant dopamine rushes, a hormone associated with pleasure and reward. However, this addiction can become problematic, especially for individuals with adverse childhood experiences. The short-form content provides a temporary escape from their emotional distress, diverting their attention from the underlying problems. This can lead to a cycle of …

Federal government's looming social media ban may be bad for isolated, marginalised teenagers
5 months ago

Federal government's looming social media ban may be bad for isolated, marginalised teenagers

ABC  

Australia will be the first in the world to ban social media for kids if the federal government goes ahead with its proposal to tighten restrictions by the end of the year. Support for young people and families The Butterfly Foundation: National helpline 1800 ED HOPE, 8am-midnight, 7 days a week ReachOut Australia: Confidential online peer support for young people …

TikTok has known about how the app can harm teens and preteens, new documents show
5 months, 2 weeks ago

TikTok has known about how the app can harm teens and preteens, new documents show

NPR  

TikTok has known about how the app can harm teens and preteens, new documents show AYESHA RASCOE, HOST: TikTok executives were acutely aware of the potential dangers the app could cause to teens but appeared unconcerned, even though the company's own internal research validated the fears child safety advocates have been raising for years. But in internal documents, TikTok admitted …

Inside the TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people
5 months, 2 weeks ago

Inside the TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people

NPR  

Inside the TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people toggle caption Damian Dovarganes/AP Kids as young as 15 were stripping on TikTok’s live feature fueled by adults who were paying for it. TikTok’s algorithm prioritizes beautiful people When TikTok’s main video feed saw “a high volume of … not attractive subjects” filling everyone’s screens, the app rejiggered its algorithm …

TikTok executives know about app’s effect on teens, lawsuit documents allege
5 months, 2 weeks ago

TikTok executives know about app’s effect on teens, lawsuit documents allege

NPR  

TikTok executives know about app’s effect on teens, lawsuit documents allege toggle caption Sebastien Bozon/AFP via Getty Images For the first time, internal TikTok communications have been made public that show a company unconcerned with the harms the app poses for American teenagers. “Unfortunately, this complaint cherry-picks misleading quotes and takes outdated documents out of context to misrepresent our commitment …

TikTok sued by 14 attorneys general over alleged harm to children’s mental health
5 months, 3 weeks ago

TikTok sued by 14 attorneys general over alleged harm to children’s mental health

CNN  

New York CNN — A bipartisan group of 14 attorneys general from across the country filed lawsuits on Tuesday against TikTok, alleging that the platform has “addicted” young people and harmed their mental health. “TikTok’s underlying business model focuses on maximizing young users’ time on the platform so the company can boost revenue from selling targeted ads,” the attorneys general …

Children and young teenagers could be banned from using social media, minister says
6 months, 2 weeks ago

Children and young teenagers could be banned from using social media, minister says

The Independent  

Get the free Morning Headlines email for news from our reporters across the world Sign up to our free Morning Headlines email Please enter a valid email address Please enter a valid email address SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Please try again later {{ /verifyErrors }} Children in the …

YouTube, TikTok and Meta are all in the firing line for children to be banned from their platforms. Here's what we know
6 months, 2 weeks ago

YouTube, TikTok and Meta are all in the firing line for children to be banned from their platforms. Here's what we know

ABC  

Children are growing up with access to endless streams of content — posts from friends and family, mindless but harmless entertainment, as well as posts from extremist influencers, pornography, violent videos, and other material with the potential to cause great harm. Anthony Albanese vows to introduce legislation to ban children from accessing social media by the end of this year …

Treatment of Imane Khelif and Raygun tells a broader story of the dangers of social media
7 months, 1 week ago

Treatment of Imane Khelif and Raygun tells a broader story of the dangers of social media

ABC  

Two incidents — both involving women competing in the Olympics — provide the latest grim proof of the often toxic, menacing and deranged nature of social media. One was the treatment of Australian Rachael "Raygun" Gunn, who literally broke not just dance moves, but also social media when she became the target of hateful comments from internet trolls after her …

New study links early childhood tablet use to anger outbursts
7 months, 2 weeks ago

New study links early childhood tablet use to anger outbursts

CNN  

CNN — Virtually every parent of young children has experienced outbursts of anger and frustration from their toddlers, whether it’s time to get up, go to bed or eat a sandwich without the crusts cut off. The new study, published in the journal JAMA Pediatrics, shows that child tablet use at 3.5 years old was associated with a higher number …

Canada man sues social media giants YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, for being too addictive, causing negative body image
7 months, 2 weeks ago

Canada man sues social media giants YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, for being too addictive, causing negative body image

Hindustan Times  

A 24 year old man from Montreal, Canada, is launching a class-action lawsuit against social media companies like TikTok, YouTube, Reddit, Instagram, and Facebook for being “too addictive.” Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, YouTube and Instagram apps are seen on a smartphone in this illustration taken, July 13, 2021. The man started using social media in 2015, due to which, he claimed …

Couple threaten to discipline stranger’s child on a Denver flight – leaving social media users torn
9 months, 1 week ago

Couple threaten to discipline stranger’s child on a Denver flight – leaving social media users torn

The Independent  

Sign up to Simon Calder’s free travel email for expert advice and money-saving discounts Get Simon Calder’s Travel email Get Simon Calder’s Travel email SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Read our privacy policy An American TikTok user has split opinion on social media for threatening to discipline a stranger’s …

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids
9 months, 1 week ago

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids

Associated Press  

At what age should kids be on social media? For years, there has been a push among parents, educators and tech experts to wait to give children phones — and access to social media — until they are older, such as the “Wait Until 8th” pledge that has parents sign a pledge not to give their kids a smartphone until …

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids
9 months, 1 week ago

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids

The Independent  

For free real time breaking news alerts sent straight to your inbox sign up to our breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails Sign up to our free breaking news emails SIGN UP I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from The Independent. Here are some tips on staying safe, communicating and …

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids
9 months, 3 weeks ago

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids

The Hindu  

At what age should kids be on social media? For years, there has been a push among parents, educators and tech experts to wait to give children phones — and access to social media — until they are older, such as the “Wait Until 8th” pledge that has parents sign a pledge not to give their kids a smartphone until …

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids
9 months, 3 weeks ago

Keeping children safe on social media: What parents should know to protect their kids

Associated Press  

At what age should kids be on social media? For years, there has been a push among parents, educators and tech experts to wait to give children phones — and access to social media — until they are older, such as the “Wait Until 8th” pledge that has parents sign a pledge not to give their kids a smartphone until …

Would a ban of social media for children under 16 be the action we need to minimise harmful health effects?
10 months ago

Would a ban of social media for children under 16 be the action we need to minimise harmful health effects?

ABC  

While federal politics often seems "top-down", some issues are pushed onto the national agenda from lower levels. This week, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese sympathised with calls for limits on children's access to social media, while last week's budget allocated funds for a trial of age verification, originally recommended by the eSafety Commissioner. 'There's no time to waste': SA government looks …

The TikTok Ultimatum Is Here. What Does It Mean?
55 years, 2 months ago

The TikTok Ultimatum Is Here. What Does It Mean?

Wired  

Makena Kelly: The Washington Post said that he had a lot to do with RFK Jr.'s TikTok content, but he was doing this content way, way, way before Link was even ever involved. Even media outlets get excited about the campaign because they know people are going to cover it and they know people are going to want to get …

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